Nicholas

Steve Ruiz - Is the canvas the future for AI?

Nicholas

I get shown a *lot* of tool demos and one thing is clear…

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I get shown a *lot* of tool demos and one thing is clear… Canvas-based UX will play a pivotal role in how we interface with AI. It’s a big reason why Figma just bought Weavy com/blog/welcome-weavy-to-figma/) 👀 So I interviewed Steve Ruiz com/steveruizok) who is the founder of tldraw dev/) where he's spent over 3 years and $5 million dollars building the perfect canvas (which powers many of the startups that we've studied on this show). Some highlights: - Why he’s been obsessing over fairies - Steve’s principles for good tool design - How he was able to learn to code so quickly - What Steve’s learned through his AI experiments - How he’s thinking about the future of agentic design - + a *lot* more Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:14 Steve's design origin story 8:30 Steve's learning journey 13:06 Obsessing over arrows 18:54 Steve's tellestration journey 24:46 Principles of great tool design 31:51 The canvas as a foundational paradigm 37:36 Steve's AI experiments with agents 42:52 Designing more agentic workflows Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿 🌐

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